As for the CWBorne's prequels, I don't recommend you wait to scripts, for a simple reason: he is not a person that it somehow it took him "two days" to think and write their episodes (acts). If you look at the dates of the updates (especially of Episode II) you will see what I mean. So I recommend you to read their treatments first, mostly by time.
I'll put some more information because I think with that I have not said you virtually nothing
:- No midiclorians, of course
- Alderaan is shown
- Anakin and Mother Skywalker are at the beginning of his twenty or maybe twenty exactly in Ep.I
- Obi-Wan is at the beginning of his thirties in Ep.I and already a Jedi Knight
- Palpatine is mentioned in Ep.I, He appears in Ep.II and the full scope of his plans in Ep.III
- The Clone Wars begins at the end of Ep.I and his ending and the consequences to the Republic in Ep.III
And I think now that's enough information. If you want more information read the post from the last link I put you in my previous post. And you have to read his two episodes, they are REALLY GOOD. And put a comment putting your opinion about his episodes (would be well on his forum topic from Original Trilogy).
And I encourage you to put your prequels in the forum of Original Trilogy, for them to give you their opinion. Create a theme and put them there. Obviously you can explain them a bit, as you have on the web. And I would recommend you to explain the reason that Episode I is so similar to the original. More than anything so they do not criticize much about it. Say what you said to me, now you plan to rewrite Ep.I and change the ages of some characters (though that you could do it now if you want).
Statistics: Posted by Mobility — Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:17 am
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I appreciate your in-depth reviews. I do agree on the age-ups. When I get a break from other projects, I'm gonna go back and adjust those in the scripts. I'm also considering doing a more extensive rewrite of Episode 1 at some point, for reasons we discussed previously (in that Episode's thread, I believe). At the time, we were trying to just kind of do minor adjustments to the Lucas version, but I kind of don't care about that now, lol.
The Obi-Wan shift was meant to show that he has human failings, too. There's a reason he and Anakin were such good friends, and I wanted to show another side of it: someone who comes close to falling, but is able to pull himself back. It's also an attempt to tie in with his "certain point of view" that the Vader persona essentially murdered Anakin, and that they aren't really the same person (which isn't far off from how Anakin falls in the script. Which is also why he's referred to as Vader instead of Anakin in the latter part of the script). Obi-Wan felt the same battle within himself.
The suit thing I go back and forth on. The primary reason I didn't want to show it was so the first appearance would be in Episode 4, when he rather dramatically strides into Leia's ship. If one were watching it from the beginning, his identity would not then be immediately known. (Though that only would last until I think Leia says his name. But still.)
EDIT: And oh yeah, I'll probably check those other prequels out. I may wait for the scripts, though!
Statistics: Posted by Swiftbow — Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:56 pm
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Like
-Better plot than the Original Episode III
-Anakin's fall to the dark side more believable
-Padme doesn’t die after giving birth
-Idea of making Mara Jade as Obi-Wan's daughter
-Idea of Anakin's clone
-That the Jedi change some of their rules (especially the one that the Jedi can marry and have children)
-Introduction of Owen and Beru more credible
Dislike
-Anakin’s age *(specified in Anakin)
-Do not show Anakin in the suit *(specified in Darth Vader)
-Some actions of Obi-Wan *(specified in Obi-Wan)
Opinion of Episode III: I liked it. The plot is better than the original, the fall of Anakin is better led, better carried Dooku's death, the inclusion of Mara Jade, etc. The only things I did not like are those that have put in the section "Dislike", which I will explain in their respective sections, but overall it is a very good movie, but for me the best prequel of the three is the second (Rise Of the Empire).
*Anakin: The only thing I did not like Anakin in this episode is his age(20). For me he should be at least 22 or 23 years old at the time(yes, I know a young Jedi named Darth Vader help the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights) but I think he should be a little older. But not only him, everyone in general, especially the main characters should have been older since Episode I. The same goes with Obi-Wan, but I did not want to put it again, because I already put it in Episode I. But having said all this I think in Episode I they should have had these ages: Obi-Wan(At least 30), Anakin and Padme(15-16). And in Episode III these: Obi-Wan(38-40), Anakin and Padme(At least 22-23).
*Darth Vader: I know that we already talked about this, but for my lack a scene where he appears inside the suit. That is on the scene when Palpatine finds him, finish the scene when Palpatine says: "We will repair you", and put a scene at the end, similar to the Episode III original, with Palpatine saying, "Anakin, can you hear me?" and he responding: "Vader, my name is Darth Vader", and Palpatine saying: "Of course Lord Vader.". Basically put what it says after "We will repair you" in that scene.
*Obi-Wan: In this not misunderstand me, I liked Obi-Wan in your Episode III, the only thing I did not like are some decisions / discussions during the episode. Especially after Mara Jade's "death", when he tells to Telly that they will avenge her. It is understandable that he says that because he thinks he just lost his daughter, he later repents, but honestly I do not like much.
And that's my opinion of your Episode III. Probably (and sorry for repeating myself) I have put some things that maybe I had already put in another episode, but I think it's fine. Of course you can answer if you want, as you see.
Statistics: Posted by Mobility — Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:12 am
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Obi-Wan (Ep.I: 30-32, Ep.II: 33-35, Ep.II: 37-39-40), Anakin (Ep.I: 16, Ep.II: 19, Ep.III: 22-23) and Padme (Ep.I: 16, Ep.II: 19, Ep.III: 22-23). You know, spending three years from Episode I to Episode II and from Episode II to Episode III four years or vice versa. Of course this is just an opinion, if you do it you have the last word.
The issue of rewriting the episode I would be a great idea, of course only if you want. Only to attempt that the plot is not so similar to the original. Obviously if you decide to do that, obviously you're the one who decides, but it would be nice if these things appear:
- Try that the plot not be so similar to the original Episode I.
- Remove the pod race.
- That Yoda was Obi-Wan's master.
- Obi-Wan is already a Jedi Knight, not a Padawan and he's the one who "discovers" Anakin and wants to train him.
- Show Alderaan.
And that's it. Of course I am not asking you to rewrite Episode I, I'm just giving you ideas if you choose to do it. But it would be nice to at least make the issue of the ages.
Thanks.
Statistics: Posted by Mobility — Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:46 pm
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We were really constrained (at the time) by trying to only change the movie "a little bit." You may notice that, to a large degree, at least until the end, this version follows most of the same action beats as the original. That was the primary reason that we didn't change Yoda to Obi-Wan's master, nor adjust Anakin's age TOO much.
I'm not particularly inclined to rewrite it AGAIN, though... at least not for awhile, lol. One thing of minimal effort that I think I may change, though, is the ages. Obi-Wan can certainly be a tad bit older, as can Anakin and Padme (probably 16 instead of 14, in their cases).
As far as Anakin's power, the intent was that it was far stronger than it should be in an untrained novice. But also that the actual amount he could wield was unpredictable and difficult for him to control. His problems are different than Luke's later on... he doesn't struggle with size so much as finesse. That's why slowing down a ship is easier for him than picking up a wrench. I think part of that struggle manifests throughout his character arc, and is part of his inability to realize the inherent danger of the Dark Side. Which is partly a result of the utility he finds in the Dark Side when he uses it to kill Darth Maul (and the only reason he wins that fight... it was something Maul was not expecting. Not to mention that Maul had lost his regular weapon at that point. He's not QUITE as deadly with a single lightsaber blade).
Statistics: Posted by Swiftbow — Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:54 am
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But thanks for the feedback. I've been long pleased with the second script, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. The politics can get a bit heavy, but it's critical to the overall shift of the balance of power. One can't observe the fall of a Republic into an Empire without some of it!
Looking forward to your last review!
Statistics: Posted by Swiftbow — Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:40 am
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